[urda]

And how exactly is a dumb TV with no WiFi radio, ethernet port, or any other forms of outgoing communication going to phone home? Please enlighten me.

[gcr]

How can you prove that your TV doesn't have a WiFi antenna inside? There's plenty of space to hide something like that in.

[urda]

... and what network will it be connecting to? Sure maybe a free hotspot here or there, but many of these TVs will not have access to even those.

And hell yeah you can prove it's not in there, either with a quick wireless scan or even a simple physical tear down of the housing which can then be put back together.

Show me a dumb TV that has been wired up to spy on people that has been in the wild before.

[caskance]

You can do those things, but you're not going to.

[urda]

> You can do those things, but you're not going to.

This is a 100% trash point. I have yet to see an unknown device on my network from a dumb screen, let alone any additional microphones or cameras on said dumb screen. I have also not seen or heard of any reports of it becoming a spying type device. You mean to tell me the dumb panel I bought, which is from a major manufacture with known tear downs and a ton of buyers, managed to sneak this hardware in (even something like a cellular radio) and nobody noticed?

I'll repeat this for you so you perhaps it will impact you this time: Show me a dumb TV that has been wired up to spy on people that has been in the wild before.

Please come equipped with citations, references, and examples before commenting.

[caskance]

No, because you're not worth spying on. Show me a unicorn. Please come equipped with a living sample and a detached horn before replying.

[urda]

> Please come equipped with a living sample and a detached horn before replying.

You cannot show up to a thread, a demand that a negative be proven. That's not how that works, and the burden of proof is on you.

> Show me a unicorn.

If you're not going to be constructive here, just stop commenting.