[Roritharr]

The point is, there will be Plug-Compatible Devices that are not Backwards compatible, as evidenced by the Thunderbolt Port switching to it.

Of course other Devices will follow that come without external power supplies and other features that don't allow for graceful degradation. Thats my point.

If it all were backwards compatible as it has been until now, things would be great, but that door has been shut now.

[tw04]

Just so we're clear, you'd rather have to carry around 10 different dongles just so you can know, visually, what a port is capable of?

I'm sorry - when I buy the laptop, I look at what the port can do, and I remember it. If I'm in a meeting and I have to use someone else's, I ask if they know. If they don't, I try it, and if it doesn't work, we move on.

I can't come up with any scenario in which this is a bad thing, outside of sheer laziness or poor planning.

[wilsynet]

But he's OK that you can't tell USB v1 from USB v2 visually. Somehow he's able to discern or recall the date of manufacture but won't be able to remember that it's a Thunderbolt port.

[DannoHung]

They probably should come up with some way to simply mark things though, so you can easily tell by looking at what you're plugging in that everything is good.

[yellowapple]

Many USB 3.0 ports have blue inner connectors to indicate that they're 3.0 ports, and some USB ports will have yellow connectors instead to indicate a variety of things (from better charging rate to supplying power even when the host device is powered off). I think the logical extension of this would be resistor-style color code bands to indicate different sets of functionality (yellow for Thunderbolt, red for charging, etc.).

[ZenoArrow]

> Of course other Devices will follow that come without external power supplies and other features that don't allow for graceful degradation. Thats my point.

I don't get your point.

The Type C connector will support USB 3.1, which AFAIK is backwards compatible with older versions of USB.

The Type C connector will also support Thunderbolt 3 (and the datatypes that Thunderbolt supports, aside from perhaps DisplayPort 1.3).

Support for the protocols is done at the chipset level. All Type C connectors in Intel computers will support everything that the Type C currently supports, as the support is built in to the Alpine Ridge chipset. Other device makers will support all the USB 3.1 stuff at a minimum out of the gate, and potentially support Thunderbolt down the road also.

Where exactly is the backwards compatibility issue? Do you mean forward compatibility?

[FreakyT]

Ah, I see your point. At the same time, though, there do exist some USB 3.0 peripherals that require of a lot of bandwidth (like docking stations), that, while theoretically backwards compatible, wouldn't actually work with a USB 1.0 port in practice due to bandwidth constraints.