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by vdaniuk 4041 days ago
This Eric Raymond? "Pederasty, at least, remains a common behavior among modern homosexuals. The `twink’ or compliant teenage boy (usually blond, usually muscled, depicted in the first dewy flush of postpubescence) is the standard fantasy object of gay porn."[0]

Or this Eric Raymond? "I believe, but cannot prove, that global “AIDS” is a whole cluster of unrelated diseases all of which have been swept under a single rug for essentially political reasons".[1]

Or this one,. Eric Raymond? "You picked an extremely bad example there; Turing was atypical in a way that damages your case. If you examine the actual circumstances of Turing’s exposure, you’ll discover that he was remarkably and willfully self-destructive about it. Outed himself, under circumstances where he could easily have covered and (as I read it) the cop was trying to look the other way. Still, I’m not “pro” Turing’s suicide, just refusing to blame anyone else for it. He made his choice and died. End of story."[2]

Such hacker ethic, so much aspiration for meritocracy.

[0]http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=26 [1]http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=184 [2]http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=1046&cpage=1#comment-236592

3 comments

Excellent job of taking him out of context, while providing quotes that actually disprove your tenet that he's a bad person. After, if the reader was paying attention, they would clearly disagree, so you can claim no culpability for the act of misleading everyone.

Excellent propaganda technique.

I had no idea, thanks for the quotes, especially the Turing quote.

I hope fetchmail makes its choice too and dies. End of story.

I had no idea either and was quite surprised to see the attack on Mozilla from the author of "The Cathedral and the Bazaar". Decided to dig deeper and lost a significant chunk of my naivete concerning a certain type of open source advocates.

The cherry on top. As far as I understand these are true Eric Raymond's beliefs:

"It is relevant here that I am a third-degree Wiccan, which means that I’m pretty experienced at designing rituals that invoke god-forms for specified purposes."[0]

[0]http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=1573

Then you discredit based on religious belief. Is there a low you won't stoop to?
So the guy speaks his mind. In a work environment, you'd get canned. In a group of close friends at a bar / playing xbox, I could imagine buds laughing at that.

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Some people are eccentric. Some people get validation from saying shocking things and getting a reaction.

Gay men do both of the above, at least as much if not more than straight men. Most gays I know are the most thick skinned, provocative people. They don't want Special treatment or pity and in fact learned to get amused by people who gawk at them. Case in point, Folsom street fair in sf.

My point is, so maybe he thinks he is redpill. maybe he's being an idiot and speaking aloud. Maybe he has a lesson to learn, but he's still a hacker.

He'd have difficulty running for political office. But I'm not about to censor his thoughts.