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by gooseus 4046 days ago
What about "isomorphic javascript" needs to be addressed? That was a term that almost seems invented as a problem for Meteor to solve. The fact that code in completely different environments (browser vs server) needs to look different is not something that needs to be addressed.

A) With financial backing Meteor is an open-source framework which MUST provide an ROI for those backers.

B) Read the comments, the reason Meteor is more hyped is because it is funded. The reason people use to justify the enormous investment in building a production app with Meteor is based on it being funded. Take away the funding and you take away a compelling reason to use it... so if that reason is removed after you have already invested, you have lost on your investment.

Meteor was not the right tool for the job, but good luck trying to have that conversation with a Meteor evangelist. Just like any other evangelist they're pragmatic when it suits their argument and dogmatic whenever it doesn't.

In closing, I'm not against Meteor as a tool. I love tools and I love a lot of the concepts in Meteor (not isomorphism, that is a fools errand).

What I don't love are people/companies that misrepresent themselves and put more money into sounding good than they do into actual being good.

My experience using Meteor was resoundingly negative and yet negative experiences are shouted down while positive ones are lauded. The "maybe it didn't suit your use case" only comes up when I show I'm willing to stick to my guns and articulate myself.

Want to convince me Meteor is really dedicated to being a great and lasting web framework and not just a cash grab? Why don't you put an article to the front page of HN describing the use cases that Meteor ISN'T good for?

You admit they exist, so why not, right? They could learn a ton about their product while being brutally honest about its limitations with the community they want to win over.

Of course, it'll never happen, because Meteor isn't really a community project to build the next best framework. It's an investment vehicle and no investor would ever willingly let doubt be shined on their investment vehicle.