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by graycat 4049 days ago
I started violin as an adult.

I'd liked classical music a lot from the first time I heard it at about age 10 and still like it a lot -- it's one of the best joys of my life.

As I was starting in math in grad school at Indiana University (IU), a friend of my parents played violin; his wife played piano; and he told me that for learning violin age really isn't the problem and, instead, the main issue is just time to practice.

So, right, IU has long had a terrific music department; in my second year my dorm building was next to the music school; an Issac Stern protege and student of IU violin teacher Josef Gingold put his old Italian violin under my left chin and gave me a first lesson; and I was hooked.

I took a beginning course in violin: Good learning situation -- after the semester was over the teacher went on to play the Brahms concerto in Toronto!

I continued, got a violin, later got a better violin, got a copy of Galamian's book, listened to a lot of violin music, learned some about how to hold the bow from pictures of Heifetz (he did it the Russian way and not the German way), worked on both exercises and also some of the famous pieces.

So, I actually made it through the famous, violin standard, the Preludio to the Bach E Major Partita. Also the Preludio to the first Bach unaccompanied cello piece -- just transpose the thing up to the corresponding strings on violin -- it's got to be easier to play on violin than cello. There's no end to how marvelous that piece is, e.g., with its ascending chromatic (just in semi-tones) climax. It's really famous, and for good reason. GrooveShark had a marvelous performance.

The Bach Chaconne, of course, was harder, and I got through the central D major section and parts of the rest.

It was also fun to be able to play Christmas music, parts, a few bars at a time, of some of the famous concertos, the motives (amazing, especially considering how simple they are) from Wagner, etc.

It was fun, lots and lots of fun. I was no good at it, but still it was lots of fun.

Now I'm too busy with my startup, but I am eager to get back to violin. Else I will use a computer, with whatever software, likely there is some; else I will write some, to perform music (ah, the Nyquist sampling theorem!), learn more about music, compose some, and have a computer perform that. Maybe the best I'll ever be able to do is to compose yet another score of low grade movie music, but, still, it should be a lot of fun.

Lesson: As an adult, it's quite possible to learn violin, cello, etc. The main issue is time to practice. The hobby can be a lot of fun even if the results are not ready for public performance. No chance of being another Heifetz or Rostropovich, but, still, it can be a lot of fun. E.g., a violin is an amazing instrument, a beautiful hunk of wood, as sensitive, astounding, and difficult to control as any human female!

If you like the music and want to try, then go ahead.

First piece of advice: An early challenge is learning how to hold a violin. For this, f'get about what Heifetz did and, instead, do what nearly all violinists do now -- use a support between the violin and your shoulder. For finding the right support, each time in a violin shop, buy at least one of each support product they have you don't and try it. Eventually you will get quite comfortable holding the violin appropriately, e.g., where it belongs and being held in place by your chin and not by your left hand.

Second Advice: Learn how the scales and keys work, major and minor, all 12 of each, the connection with key signatures on the staff of the music (they look complicated but actually are simple -- mostly you don't pay any attention, note by note, to all those sharps and flats and, instead, just play in the associated key), the circle of fifths, etc. Learn the connection with 2^(1/12), e.g., 2^(7/12) is close to 1.5 and, thus, a perfect fifth. You need to know this stuff. Learn why the triad is so important -- the overtones line up really nicely, thank you J. Fourier and L. Bernstein (on YouTube watch his Harvard lectures).

Second Lesson: Learn how the tuning is based on ratios of small whole numbers and get to where you can hear those, e.g., via bowing two strings at once and listening to the beats of the first overtone in common to the two notes (derive the trigonometry of beats if you didn't get it in physics class).

Then learn to hear the notes and intervals (especially major third, fourth, fifth, sixth, octave) just one at a time.

For your intonation, from those ratios can actually can pick out and confirm (that is, check yourself) the whole major and minor scales. In the end, for all your intonation and tuning, all you need is just a simple tuning fork at A = 440 Hz.

Finally, work enough with the scales so that you can hear them -- quite generally hear a note in your head just before trying to play it (makes it easier then actually to play that note instead of something else).

Singing is a great way to learn the notes -- you will learn to hear the notes one way or another, in singing you can apply to violin or in violin you can apply to singing.

Go for it.

But, it's 300 year old technology. Really, the future of music composition and performance is software on computers!

More advice: In many ways piano is a better start into music than violin or cello. There's no law saying you can't do both.

For a little of how some famous violin music can be arranged for piano, there's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOFflFiLlT8

Of course, also listen to violin version, say, by Heifetz, Hahn, Ibragimova, others, on, say, YouTube.

Yes, that's the Bach Chaconne. Playing that can be one of the greatest joys in all of life (better than a lot, although not all, of the sex I've had!). With a violin, or, sure, the piano version, can have own voice of the human spirit just scream out to the universe. So, you get an amazing voice for "Listen up, universe: On life here, I've got some reactions for you".

If really like that music, then you are one of the ones who should get started, with piano, cello, violin, or two of those or all three! Then, later computers!

Go for it!

1 comments

As someone who's been learning the violin for the past year and a half, I completely agree that one can pick up the violin as an adult.

One of the first things I did was to get a teacher to guide me through it, and that has helped enormously. While I do like western classical music, I find compositions from modern Japanese composers such as Joe Hiashi much more fun to play.