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by ripley12 4047 days ago
"muni is wildly expensive compared to any other competent city"

This is just so not true. Transit is much more expensive in both Tokyo and London.

Agreed about SF transit being awful though.

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combining the end-user and city-paid prices, it is

see, eg http://www.sfweekly.com/sanfrancisco/the-muni-death-spiral/C...

   • Your Muni is slow. With an average vehicle speed of 8.1 mph, it is far and 
   away the slowest major urban transit system in the nation. While some of 
   this can be blamed on San Francisco's congestion and density, there are 
   myriad methods of speeding up service other agencies have adopted that Muni 
   hasn't. This isn't just an inconvenience for Muni's declining ridership; 
   it's a major financial drain on a beleaguered system. Slow vehicle speeds 
   force Muni to spend more money to provide less service. Muni's lethargy is 
   literally costing it millions.
   
   • For these and other reasons, Muni spends more to operate its vehicles than 
   virtually any comparable transit agency. For every mile Muni runs a bus in 
   this city, it spends $19.21; comparable agencies nationwide pay between $10 
   and $13. For every mile Muni runs a light-rail vehicle, it throws down 
   $24.37; comparable rail services spend between $12 and $22.
That is an interesting link, thanks. I do wish it was better about providing sources though.