[pradocchia]

This is true, SQL does not require everything to be a set, strictly speaking, but internally many platforms append a unique row identifier to bags, so that they can be processed as sets.

I often wish platforms would expose their internal calculus in a separate syntax, so we wouldn't have to work through the SQL translation layer. Algebraic operators would be nice too.

[leandrod]

Ðat may be true, but what platforms do internally ſhould not affect ðeir flavours of SQL.

In oðer words, internal implementation as ſets do not make SQL ſet‐baſed.

[pradocchia]

No argument there (ðere?), SQL is an unfortunate language.

[cturner]

Do you have any thoughts about why there has been no challenge to the SQL syntax? We can easily imagine notations based on relational algebra and relational calculus emerging that could be interpreted at the same levels of an RDBMS as SQL, yet I've not seen anyone attempt it. A good PhD topic for someone?

[encoderer]

SQL was designed to make data accessible to non-programmers. That's why it lacks more advanced/obscure syntax.

And the reason why it's stuck is the same story that you can tell over and over about standards.

[shaunxcode]

APL? (seriously)