[fiatmoney]

"the local FBI wanted to mount a dramatic raid on Ross’ house. Tarbell ... was worried about repeating the mistake made during his first big cybercrime case ... a SWAT team charged into Hammond’s apartment throwing flash grenades, immediately alerting Hammond in the back room, who shut the lid of his laptop, encrypting it forever... Still, the assault strategy remained in place."

So take note - the FBI is populated by the kind of people who enjoy roughing up suspects, even when it harms a larger investigation.

[MichaelGG]

In the first part, it talks about how the agent loves breaking down doors at 6am in his Doc Martens. I.e. loves being a literal jackbooted thug.

My only consultation is that hopefully one day prohibition will be fixed, and these agents will reflect and see their careers contributed nothing of value to the world. That they just caused trouble, like a bully. That countless lives, marriages, children got screwed up due to their pointless actions. I know, probably they'll remain delusional, but one can hope.

[arikrak]

There were a whole bunch of articles a while ago about the rise of using SWAT teams for all sorts of arrests. Think from the officers' perspectives - they watch all these movies, they go and become FBI officers, and then they barely get to do anything exciting. So they naturally jump at the chance to do an exciting arrest. I guess there should be some kind of check-and-balance in place on the type of arrest, maybe for some arrests they should need to get a special warrant or something.

[ufmace]

I thought to come back to this thread and mention this as well because the more I think about it, the more it disturbs me. Why is the high-intensity SWAT raid so embedded in the FBI mindset that it's the first thing they go for, and even well-reasoned internal pressure isn't enough to stop it?

First, I haven't heard of any suspicions that Ross/DPR was in physical possession of any significant quantity of drugs or any weapons at all, or that he had any history of or inclination towards personally committing violence. So what's the point of the 5AM ninja raid? 4 agents in business clothes swinging by at noon would be perfectly adequate to take him into custody without hurting anybody, destroying anything, scaring the crap out of anybody, or scaring anybody into defending themselves with force against what looks an awful lot like criminal action.

Second, the cybercrime team, the guys who actually generated the evidence needed to find him in the first place, told the locals that they were very unlikely to get enough evidence to convict unless they literally snatched his work laptop out of his hands while he was working on Silk Road, without him even having a chance to press a single key. This was based on their experience in previous cybercrime investigations. They were completely ignored, and a SWAT raid was planned anyways, despite this and the first point above.

WTF FBI? Somebody needs to smack some sense into them over there, tell them that they exist to solve crimes and not play wannabe COD mall-ninjas.

[sliverstorm]

Sounds more like the old adage about how when you're holding a hammer-