[commentnull]

Someone made the point yesterday, a good point I think, that the Go and Rust crowd would be better served by showing positive blogs and examples (i.e. Here is how to build a small app) rather than ones that serve only to whine and complain and bemoan C/C++.

You don't win friends by criticism.

As a seasoned C++ programmer, I am interested in Go and Rust, but not because a few ardent posters told me I have to.

[nemothekid]

> that the Go and Rust crowd would be better served by showing positive blogs and examples

Are we reading the same Hacker News? The community practically fellates itself over these two languages with any project/blog in the title containing Go or Rust shooting up to the front page.

If you simply search "Rust" on HN search, the first 4 pages all contain positive blogs and examples, with 200+ points and 100+ comments, and the first negative one on page 4 being "Author of “Unix in Rust” Abandons Rust in Favour of Nim"[1].

If you aren't seeing the "positive" stuff I'd have to say its because you don't want to see them. Even more strange you say that the Go crowd just whines and complains about C/C++ when the community has given up trying to be a replacement for C++ years ago and has embraced the "I need compiled Python" crowd.[2]

[1]https://github.com/ckkashyap/rustix/issues/8 [2]http://commandcenter.blogspot.it/2012/06/less-is-exponential...

[kibwen]

Where are these articles that whine and complain and bemoan C++? Here are all the recent articles from the Rust developers themselves:

http://blog.rust-lang.org/2015/04/10/Fearless-Concurrency.ht...

http://blog.rust-lang.org/2015/04/24/Rust-Once-Run-Everywher...

http://blog.rust-lang.org/2015/05/11/traits.html

Each of these have been at the top of HN on the day of publication, they've been relatively hard to miss. None of them bemoan C++. In fact, they cite C++ as inspiration.

[SamReidHughes]

So, which articles and blog postings about Rust have you seen that put C++ in a false light? Feel free to consider this a test.

[kibwen]

I refuse to consider it a test, thank you, because I'd end up failing it. I was genuinely curious when I asked the grandparent poster where he was seeing people whine about C++, because I just haven't seen them. And I'm a moderator of /r/rust, so I like to think that I see every Rust-related blog post that springs forth from the bowels of the internet.

In the course of researching this comment I ranked the top-rated posts on the subreddit over the past month, and not only did I not find any that were bashing C++, but the fourth-highest-rated post is actually a criticism of Rust by a Boost developer: https://plus.google.com/+nialldouglas/posts/AXFJRSM8u2t

So I ask again: who is going around unjustly denouncing C++ in Rust's name? I ask because I want to stop them!