[workingandtired]

To be fair, I was a self taught programmer (albeit PHP) and I was on my second or third programming job before I came across a modulus in the wild. It's really simple basic programming theory, but not super common in live web development.

[efbbbf]

That's not being fair. That's your own problem. I'm also a self-taught programmer, but I don't feel like I need to compare myself to her.

The point is that she didn't fit the requirements of the job.

As a result, she did not get the job. That's pretty much end of story. If the job requires her to be "experienced with JS", that means that they want her to know the language.

And it's not just modulo. She didn't know how to convert a timecode string to seconds.

I have no idea how someone like that would be able to understand the code. Nor why she would think that "it's okay" not knowing those things and yet be an engineer at their company.

To repeat what has been said - she was not applying to a job as a designer. She was applying to a job as an engineer and designer. She didn't meet at least half the criteria (and she didn't have degrees, which is probably why they even asked her those questions to test what actual knowledge she has).

[workingandtired]

Yeah, I guess I didn't quite make my point clear. All I meant was that it's easy to work inside frameworks without truely understanding the language.

I wasn't "comparing" myself to her. I was just explaining how it could happen. I agree that she wasn't qualified for the job and didn't deserve to get it. But I'd be willing to guess that if they job had a line like "This job will be 75% programming, 25% ui/ux design", she wouldn't have applied. I feel like she was looking for a design job but didn't find out otherwise until the middle of the interview.

[dragonwriter]

> To be fair, I was a self taught programmer (albeit PHP) and I was on my second or third programming job before I came across a modulus in the wild.

Knowing of an existing modulus operator/function isn't necessary to solve FizzBuzz; there's a fairly simple solution with just add/increment, assignment, and conditional logic without modulus.

[workingandtired]

Yeah, you're right about that. I was just trying to explain how you can work in an environment and make websites, but not necessarily grasp a full understanding of the language you're working in.

But my feeling from the post was that she is first and foremost a UI/UX designer, with some supplemental jquery/js knowledge. She applied for the job thinking it was a fit, but didn't find out otherwise until the middle of the interview. She wasn't qualified for what they were looking for, but I can empathize with the ambiguity in some of the job listings requirements.