[zxcvcxz]

> You just know that some wag will jump on this and twist this into "It is intelligent to be racist!".

Not before some wag jumps on it and makes sure anyone who tries to discuss the topic rationally and thoughtfully is already seen as racist and stupid.

I dream of a community where everything is up for discussion, even if I disagree with it.

[madaxe_again]

Actually, the first response was from a hellbanned account espousing exactly that point of view.

I'm also not sure where you got that I'm trying to censor discussion - you commented, did you not?

"michas 3 hours ago [dead]

It has nothing to do with intelligence, it is just all about being realist. Existence of different races comes from the fact that there are genetic differences between people. It would be stupid to assume that those genetic differences have no other effect than skin color."

[omginternets]

I don't see anything wrong with the quote you posted. It doesn't imply that people of different races are stupid or inferior. It just implies that you expect genetic differences to correlate with all manner of other measures.

Respectfully, I think you're reading into it too much.

[s_q_b]

While there's technically nothing racist about a small variation in intelligence. But this comment leaves a bad taste in my mouth, as we know that.

1. Individual variation in intelligence dwarfs any population level measure with regard to race. 2. The evidence with regard to IQ differences by race is suspect at best, especially because it is unclear that one can accurately control for socioeconomic factors. 3. It would be ignorant to assume that transporting an entire people from one continent to another, forcing them to serve as slaves for much of our history, systemically suppressing their political representation even after granting freedom, and an extremely efficient police-prison-industrial complex that disproportionately targets that minority would leave no lasting ill effects.

It suggests to me the motive is a writer's true belief is in racial superiority, which given the hellbanned account, seems the more likely option than an honest attempt to further a scholarly discussion.

[s0x]

1. I don't see how this point has any relevance. Of course the variance between outliers in a population is going to differ greater than the variance between population means. What does that have to do with anything? 2. The IQ disparity among the races is well studied, well researched, and well documented. It sounds like you need to do more reading on the subject. 3. So now it's clear that while he was making a general comment about the need to accept the reality of differences among the races, you're making it out to be a comment against black people. Ok. But I'll respond to your tangent: It would be ignorant to assume that the only IQ studies done were on slave-descended, or, as you would call them, "systemically oppressed" African Americans. IQ studies have been conducted world-wide, and regardless of where or when they've been performed, Ashkenazi Jews consistently score the highest, East Asians second highest, Caucasians next, then Hispanics and Latinos, then Blacks.

You seem like someone with an axe to grind.

[madaxe_again]

Respectfully, you've just argued a counterpoint that doesn't address my initial statement at all, and if anything throws light on what you're thinking about.

I was talking about people making a causal link between elevated intelligence and incidence of racism - not even slightly that there were cognitive differences between "races".

[omginternets]

Apologies, I misinterpreted your statement!

[seivan]

Thank you! I was going to say the same thing.

"Hurry! Before anyone has a simple thought in their head, brand them as racist and misogynist!"