[aledujke]

I used elementary in the past and I was very happy with it. I did not want to donate but I did want to support them by buying their ware. Stickers and shirts. Problems is... for over 3 years now their store only supports US customers. A year ago they said they are working on it and still have not fixed it.

http://www.reddit.com/r/elementaryos/comments/23v9o9/element...

Yet they want you to donate.

[anon3_]

> I used elementary in the past and I was very happy with it.

Are you aware that they just may want to be able to have a part or full time job doing software?

What do you expect them to have? A trust fund from their parents and they just give you free stuff?

> Stickers and shirts.

Serious? The gap of money they'd keep to feed themselves from that - plus the extra labor (distraction from improving the code).

I think you mean well, but here and other commenters seem to view GPL more as a right to pirate legally.

Who is the real freeloader, the guy who is very happy with [software]" and can't pay without foaming at the mouth, or someone who actually developed a created work in the first place*.

The insensitivity and entitlement is mind-boggling, from my perspective as a coder.

[aledujke]

>Are you aware that they just may want to be able to have a part or full time job doing software? >Who is the real freeloader, the guy who is very happy with [software]" and can't pay without foaming at the mouth, or someone who actually developed a created work in the first place*.

I am, like people from KDE or Gnome or whichever WM out there. You still don't see them being smug about donations. Oh and elementary guys don't even want to call it a donation. They've built their distribution on top of GPL software and they think you should pay for what they did, not donate. Quote from the comments section from that article: ======================== Cassidy James Mod Andrew Sauder • 3 months ago

We never use the word "donate." That's kind of a the core idea; we're not saying, "here's this free thing, donate if you want."

We're saying, "We've poured time and money into making this thing, and we think it has value." You get to choose how much you value it, or, if you can't afford it, that's okay too. ======================== If anyone is a pirate (oh the irony of calling someone who uses gpl a pirate) here it's them.

>Serious? The gap of money they'd keep to feed themselves from that - plus the extra labor (distraction from improving the code). Then why are they even selling the wares? You make it sound like they are losing money on that stuff as if the developer is packing my shirt. If you read the comment that I linked you would see that the shop is web team's responsibility.

>commenters seem to view GPL more as a right to pirate legally. I think that if Richard Stallman were to read this it would make him sad.