[greenjellybean]

I don't buy Apple computers but isn't that a main selling point with osx?

[rdsnsca]

It is one of the selling points. It has been over 5 years since Apple has sold a computer with any third party software on it.

[mahouse]

Out of curiosity, what 3rd-party sw did Apple bundle over 5 years ago?

[wiredfool]

Oddly enough, I have a fresh install of Os9.2 here, from 2001.

It's got IE5, Stuffit Expander, Netscape Communicator 4.7.7, and Outlook Express 5.0.2, and Java.

[dagw]

Apple used to bundle demo apps and games with their computers. I for example remember getting a demo of a Tony Hawk skating game and a couple of other apps with an iBook.

[drak0n1c]

Java

[NelsonMinar]

Depends on whether you consider iTunes crapware :-)

[Watabou]

iTunes isn't crapware on OS X. It is on Windows though, I think mostly because Apple doesn't want to put too many resources into iTunes on Windows.

iTunes on OS X runs better than any other music apps (that are not command line music clients like ncmpcpp) I've used, and I've used a lot. On OS X, I can't see why people would call it bloatware/crapware.