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by eranation 4065 days ago
Not extraordinary if you're an enterprise shop. What's not cool and old school for startups is probably the widest used web / services framework in the enterprise world, vying only with Spring and ASP.net

There are probably more java EE jobs out there than ruby ones. (It doesn't say anything really, except the fact that some places don't laugh at you if you suggest Java EE, some places would laugh at you if you suggest anything else)
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threeseed 4065 days ago
Sure it's not extraordinary to still see them used. But suggested for a new project ?

I've spent at least 15 years in enterprise companies and most new projects I've seen have been Scala/Clojure/Java 8 style in microservices form. Less so the monolithic WAR style apps.

Not dismissing the choice at all. Would just like to hear more about why they are bucking the popular trend.

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mikehaggard 4065 days ago
>But suggested for a new project ?

I'm seeing this a lot. If you browse the site the article's on you'll find some more examples.

The moral of the story is that "we" all think Java EE is very enterprisey and that it's anti the popular trend (which is AngularJS, Node.js, or were those popular yesterday?), and meanwhile a couple of startups are being very productive and able to start quickly with modern Java EE because "nobody" has realy noticed that Java EE slimmed down so much and got so much more productive.

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eranation 4065 days ago
I guess it depends on the "hard core" ness of the enterprise. Walmart and such? Yes, scala / dropwizard / Vert.X and even Node.JS can be popular. Bank of X? X insurance? You will be suggesting even to upgrade to the latest Java EE and look like a crazy revolutionist.
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