[brownbat]

> Those who disagree, why?

They probably feel that the Nuremberg trials are a hyperbolic example here, and worry that line of argument brushes a little too close to Godwin's Law.

Upshot, we probably all agree with you that everyone has personal responsibility for their actions. There are still situations where we want attorneys to listen to their clients though.

[Lawtonfogle]

Godwin's law is a overused to shut down legitimate topics. And while the point may be the most extreme, it is still a very valid point. If one wants to say it is different, one needs to articulate why.

[madez]

Thank you for bringing sense into this discussion.

I wouldn't say extreme, but fundamental. I referenced the Nuremberg Principles because they are so fundamental and I genuinely don't know a better example.

Several people in the community misuse down-votes. They down-vote on-topic, constructive and serious discussions which disagree with their opinion instead of simply articulating their criticism.

[0xdeadbeefbabe]

Godwin said, "I wanted folks who glibly compared someone else to Hitler or to Nazis to think a bit harder about the Holocaust"[0]

I suppose because "Godwin's law" is in the dictionary now you are free to add meaning as you like, but I wouldn't be happy about this stackoverlow like meta trivial pursuit at the expense of logic if I were Godwin.

[0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

[qbrass]

He understood memes and introduced species enough to introduce a meme as a predator to a different meme, but ignored that introduced species with no predators quickly become invasive themselves.

So if he's not happy, he's only got himself to blame.

[madez]

But it has a predator: critical thought.

[madez]

Do you have a better example where personal responsibility was officialy upheld?

[lotsofmangos]

A story about a two year old learning about agency would be a better example, there are millions of better examples for this context.

The most extreme example of a thing you can find is not usually the ideal example to use for most contexts. Rather than clarifying things, if it dwarfs the context, it then appears automatically ridiculous even if the basic argument is sound.

[madez]

> A story about a two year old learning about agency would be a better example,

This is not an example for official upholding of personal responsibility.

> there are millions of better examples for this context.

This is hand-waving. I used the Nuremberg trials specifically to not hand-wave.

[lotsofmangos]

"This is hand-waving. I used the Nuremberg trials specifically to not hand-wave."

Now that is funny, though I suspect unintentionally, and in horrifically bad taste either way.

[madez]

I think here is some kind of misunderstanding.

I did not intend to be funny nor do I see why it was bad taste.

My question for a better example was genuine.

[mryan]

Presumably lotsofmangos is making a reference to the Nazi salute.