[mike_hearn]

Well, it's been established beyond doubt that in the USA the FBI basically creates terrorists by finding angry people and putting bombs in their hands (and ensures that they complete the plot that was invented for them, even if they wouldn't have been able to do it themselves). They then use the prevalence of terrorism to justify new powers.

That's pretty damn close to what iuyoiuyy is talking about. Razor thin distinction between FBI and intelligence agencies excepted.

[peteretep]

    > it's been established beyond doubt that in the USA the
    > FBI basically creates terrorists

This is where I ask for a citation, and get back one of: nothing, a bunch of links to cancelled false-flag operations from the 1960s, or a bunch of links to websites with name like OPENLIBERTYORG right?

[mike_hearn]

Skepticism is often good, though in this case, unwarranted. Here you go:

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/16/howthefbicreat...

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/25/isis-material-...

That this keeps happening is well documented. Just read some of the criminal complaints filed by the FBI themselves: the truth is out there, Scully ;)

[thibauts]

Here it is http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/07/21/us-terrorism-prosecutions...