[jure_z]

That's one thing I should've mentioned as well, thanks!

I, for example, come from all sorts of different languages (C++, C#, Java ...) but Obj-C was still a pain to learn. I also do personal projects in Ruby, which I like a lot. That's why I'm really fond of Swift and I can see it going in a similar direction, maybe.

And I agree - Apple frameworks are still written in Obj-C, so you'll have to obtain a basic understanding of the language. But that can come in a bit later, once you've already built something and are looking to dig in a bit deeper. :)