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by nhayden 4069 days ago
The issue is not a lack of awareness. The vast majority of the voting-capable population has heard, to at least some extent, that the NSA/others are surveilling communications. The issue is either they don't care, they agree with the surveillance, or they are too lazy to become informed and vote to change it.

There is literally nothing on this site about being involved in voting or the politicians supporting or fighting this type of activity. If they at the very least gave visitors some way to continue their participation and become informed, I would be fine with it. Right now it's just attention for the sake of attention. It needs to be channeled into something useful.
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kajecounterhack 4069 days ago
> The issue is not a lack of awareness. The vast majority of the voting-capable population has heard, to at least some extent, that the NSA/others are surveilling communications.

"at least to some extent" is quite a qualifier. Fact is awareness is always important, and projects like these do exactly that.

> The issue is either they don't care, they agree with the surveillance, or they are too lazy to become informed and vote to change it.

"Awareness" also involves grabbing the attention of otherwise "lazy" people who aren't incentivized to care.

> There is literally nothing on this site about being involved in voting or the politicians supporting or fighting this type of activity. If they at the very least gave visitors some way to continue their participation and become informed, I would be fine with it. Right now it's just attention for the sake of attention. It needs to be channeled into something useful.

This app is part of FightForTheFuture (https://www.fightforthefuture.org), it gives visitors a way to donate and the organization has lots of info. It is useful.

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sukilot 4069 days ago
The site is a showcase for the organizer to get attention to win a job at a big tech company. See also: the online self-appointed leaders of Occupy who went to work for Google on adtech.
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kajecounterhack 4069 days ago
This isn't true, and is an incredibly cynical sentiment.

https://www.fightforthefuture.org/aboutus

> See also: the online self-appointed leaders of Occupy who went to work for Google on adtech.

I don't know about the veracity of that but it doesn't seem relevant. Some people care / try to effect social change. These people are some of them. This is one of the main groups that helped bring SOPA / PIPA to light (see: Aaron Swartz)

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