[fnordfnordfnord]

That's the Ballmer induced PTSD. It may take a generation for MS to recover. I want it to be brilliant, even though I'm not sure what it is. But, MS gets the skepticism it worked so hard to earn WRT to attitudes from open source folks.

[fapjacks]

You know, there's a lot of insight here in this comment, and I think a lot of the moves made by Microsoft WRT open source in the last few months is in direct response to this (deserved) attitude.