[estava]

Yes, TS is improved since it comes with the top IDE: VS. :-P

Seriously though. Watching how people use IDE to code on Twitch can be so boring. Everyone is quick to suggest to step the code with the debugger. When just printing stuff to the console would be better.

I hope that TypeScript never makes it into the browsers. I would take JavaScript without the types by default. It can even be more static than it is. But please, no types by default. Types make for bloated code.

Someone yesterday spent 2 hours on Twitch dabbling with the Eclipse IDE and could not get unstuck, since they weren't even referring to the documentations or making quick changes to test their code.

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"Types make for bloated code" - no, poor type inference does.

[estava]

In theory. In practice many of the mainstream languages make for bloated code. Yesterday I was seeing type casts and so on increasing the size of the code.

But developers can grow used to bloated code. Like they can get used to stepping the code with the debugger. I for one prefer to print debug info. On the browser I have custom code that helps with that. But I understand that many developers don't have anything like that and they have to use a standard debugger instead.

I grew used to debugging with print outs on Ruby. Before that I used to use IDEs like Delphi and Eclipse.

I also hear that one of the problems people may have on OCaml is that sometimes when they want to print some data structures they first have to make it printable. I like languages that make the structures printable by default like in Ruby.

Anyways...