[xtrumanx]

Oh sure, the stateful model thing you mention definitely sucks which is why I hate using asp.net web forms and prefer asp.net mvc at the office.

Both of them have lifecycle methods, (for app start, request start, request end, etc.) and for the most part I completely ignore them until the day I need to use them and I'm glad they exist because the alternative would have been writing a code in every endpoint of my application.