[greggman]

Wow, it sounds like you had bad luck finding places.

I find Tokyo 10x better than SF or LA for places to hang. In SF or LA they are either all full, or you have to by stuff every 2 hours which makes me fat, plus I can't leave anything out so after a coffee or two I need to use the restroom and I lose my space because you can't leave a notebook unattended in the USA. The only exception is maybe the Workspace Cafe in SF.

In Tokyo there's co-working spaces everywhere, they are cheap (especially when you take into account free drinks). Have worked from plenty of starbucks as well, except on weekends when they're full. The one behind roppongi hills that's open till 4am has been great. The one at the corner of Meiji-dori and Omotesando on the 6th floor is huge and been great too. Just don't go on a weekend / holiday.

I'd be curious to know which cities you think are good. I traveled to a bunch of cities in Europe last year and my luck was like yours in Tokyo. I looked up places, checked them out, all were horrible. But I was only in each city for a week or less so maybe I just failed to find anything like you did in Tokyo.

[santaclaus]

> plus I can't leave anything out so after a coffee or two I need to use the restroom and I lose my space because you can't leave a notebook unattended in the USA.

I have a beat up moleskine with some random doodles that I carry around for exactly this reason. Need to use the restroom at a coffee shop? Leave my disposable moleskine and a pencil on the table to claim the spot. If someone jacks the table, easy to ask them what they did with your notebook.

Works in: Bushwick, Denver, Seattle, SF, Austin

[practicalpants]

I'm not disputing Tokyo is full of Starbucks. Judge me if you want but I just won't work from Starbucks. (For the record, the Starbucks at Daikanyama in the T-Complex is actually very cool and is worth a mention; didn't like the Starbucks you mentioned much, which I also worked from a little, by necessity... also if you're in Roppongi go work from the art museum cafe, or for a great spot open late, there's a stylish lounge/cafe in Shibuya a block by Zanmai Sushi open until 7am, really can't think of the name)

You would have to list names of specific places, apart from the ones I listed, because I just don't believe it's a matter of me not looking enough. You would also have to list names of co working spaces too that are good, because as I mentioned, the ones I went to were quite bad.

For SF, I have a map of ~20 hacker friendly coffee shops I frequent there. There were maybe 4-5 coffee shops in all of Tokyo of a comparable standard. (Fukuoka, even Sapporo, had better spots than Tokyo for laptop workers.)

Shanghai is an example of a city that is actually 10x better for working from cafes (if you use a VPN).

[orthoganol]

Well I think you will have to actually list some places if you want to argue it is hacker friendly :)... just saw this thread, in Tokyo myself. I don't think it's particularly hacker friendly, cafe wise, lack of wifi, etc.

I would be thrilled if you would list a good cafe or two, as I am always on the hunt.

[cageface]

Vietnam is in general an amazing place to work from cafes. Free WiFi is standard, most cafes serve a decent breakfast for less than $2, and many of them are quite elegant and beautifully appointed. The biggest downside is that everybody smokes here so if you're sensitive to cigarette smoke you might have a hard time finding a seat that isn't close to a smoker.

[practicalpants]

Any city in particular you'd recommend in Vietnam for cafe workers? I might be heading that way soon.

[cageface]

Saigon (or Ho Chi Minh City) is the best place if you want to meet other tech people, but I find it a little too hectic to stay here too long. I prefer the smaller towns like Nha Trang or Hoi An if I really want to knuckle down and get things done.

[mrkirkland]

Ho Chi Minh City (District 1) One of my favorite hobo working cafe cities