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by kasey_junk 4078 days ago
> 1. Quote and trade data must be time stamped by the exchanges at the time it is generated. This will ensure delays can be detected by everyone.

Quotes and trades are typically generated on different systems. There are CAP ramifications for implementing this that may be much worse than the fix.

> 2. Quote-stuffing should be banned.

If you mean quote stuffing as DDoS, this is banned and is trivially prevented by the exchange. If you mean quote stuffing as in layering, that is illegal and is not trivially prevented.

> 3. Add a simple 50 millisecond quote expiration rule: a quote must remain active until it is executed or 50ms elapses.

This may or may not have CAP implications. I'm curious why 50 ms is chosen? Click traders won't be able to respond to this (and you've already mentioned Alaska/Hawaii) so it won't be "everyone" in any case.

Finally what does the NBBO have to do with CME trades? These were futures contracts that have no legal requirements with regard to the NBBO. They do of course have a correlation with the NBBO just like equities exchanges in Europe and Asia do. Do you intend to regulate the venues globally?

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Apologies for any confusion... the recommendations were from Nanex [http://www.nanex.net/] and not my own. I quoted the recommendations directly from the Nanex report 'Analysis of the "Flash Crash"' which I will link here again for intellectual honesty http://www.nanex.net/20100506/FlashCrashAnalysis_CompleteTex...
What is the definition of "layering" here? I've seen this label applied to a technique that is used to ensure that orders are at or near the front of the queue on a price/time priority exchange as the market is moving. Essentially, this allows you to hold the option of whether to cancel your orders or leave them in place to facilitate your hedging as the market moves in a given direction; do you believe that this technique is or should be illegal?
Layering or spoofing in this sense is putting in many orders (or less commonly a few very large) orders at different "layers" of the order book with the intention to cancel them before they can trade. The purpose is to increase the perceived supply/demand and manipulate other market makers.

The problem is that the term quote stuffing is used to describe both this and the practice of spamming orders into an exchange (which I don't think happens much) for nefarious purposes.

What you are describing I've heard as layering and or stacking orders and is not illegal assuming your intent is to have those orders trade.

As always, definitions are important.

What you are describing is manipulation of what I've seen called "book" or "depth" micro price; the sort of thing that got Trillium in trouble (http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/09/13/financial-trillium...). I would expect everyone to take bid/ask + depth data with a large grain of salt if there are no accompanying trades, and use it only in a defensive fashion.

As for quote stuffing, this sort of thing was happening by accident in the early to mid 2000s due to the failure of some exchanges to upgrade their hardware infrastructure to handle legitimate volume. In this sort of environment, it would be easy to get away with spamming/DOS'ing the exchange to put competitors behind, but I doubt that this lack of investment still persists. Might still be possible in less-developed markets though.