[anon3_]

What scala does is sloppily bolt on everything without putting any checks or balances.

I don't doubt your sincerity.

Try to pull yourself out and understand it as an investor:

$500 a day to pay for a scala engineer. Not a word about the bottom line.

Python? Ruby? Are they algorithmically fast? No, but they ship and sell.

[lmm]

Depends what you're making. http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/HighNotes.html can apply - what I'm working on right now with Spark I dread to think how you'd do reliably in any other language.

> $500 a day to pay for a scala engineer. Not a word about the bottom line.

Maybe - I don't make that much and I have 5 years' Scala experience. (I have a relaxed environment and great culture though, so I'm not complaining). What I really don't get is Java companies where developers are chomping at the bit to use Scala and management says no - your devs are volunteering to become devs that companies would pay 2x for, the least you can do is let them.

[justthistime_]

What did it bolt on? Where are the checks missing?

The last major version and the next major version don't ship with any new feature at all, and removing some stuff, so it's a bit hard to see were you are coming from.

[anon3_]

http://www.scala-lang.org/download/changelog.html

Python has PEP's. C and C++ have a ISO standards body. JDK has JEP. Adding a new library feature, let alone overhauling core types, is something scala added as if it was no big deal.

In python, when "new classes" were introduced, it was a big honking deal! You can bet it was heard about everywhere, in the documentation, etc. cpython interpreters like python 2.6 have support going back 5 years, and the changes between 2.x python versions are small compared scala.

There's a reason why enterprise languages move like a toad. We can't have legacy systems breaking. We want our legacy libraries to keep working. In 2015, I write python 2.6 code that works in python 3.5-dev, because they carefully planned releases and I write idiomatically.

Ask yourself if uninitiated generalist prorgammers can really grasp those hieroglyphic walls of text. It's encoding too much information too densely, and inside the density, there's so many clever tricks that block could doing.

It entices solipsistic programming. Long evenings and hard work goes into programming blocks of logic that aren't portable or readable as a future consolidation. This is where scala user's get protective. Their mental thought is legitimate, the output however means nothing to fellow coders.

With java, you could say we satisfy the longterm code quality. Even though I'm cynical of the JVM, I realize that my time and effort would hold out on the long term and my team would have code that would be a legacy into the future.

With scala, their is a sense of urgency coupled with a legitimate sense of eureka! But it all ends up looking like schizophrenic scribbling on a napkin to others.

Scala must limit the grammar in your programming language.

[justthistime_]

I'm not even sure which point you are trying to make.

Did you even read the link you posted? It supports what I said.

You keep writing walls of text which are either wrong or don't relate to the topic at hand. Many of the mistakes should be obvious to a person who has used Scala for more than 5 minutes, so I'm really wondering what's your issue here ...

Not liking Scala is perfectly fine. It's not necessary to make up claims (which don't hold up to 5 seconds of scrutiny).

Edit: Instead of editing you post trying to evoke a more emotional response from people, why not focus on correcting your false claims?

[justthistime_]

It's amazing that you keep doing edits which are literally begging for an emotional response, but couldn't manage to take a few minutes to check your claims against the reality.