[borgia]

I suppose it's only natural that people are resorting to these when huge swathes of the American youth are being prescribed Adderall and similar and gaining a competitive edge with them over those who don't have access to them.

I previously looked at sourcing modafinil but ultimately decided against it due the the sources available looking dodgy, a lack of clarity in the laws around it, etc. As more reputable companies emerge in the sector I think I may well end up giving the products a go.

[therobot24]

> gaining a competitive edge with them over those who don't have access to them

I don't think Adderall/Strattera/Concerta/Ritalin/etc is as effective on those without ADHD as you're implying it is, and those who actually have ADHD (myself included) are not better at a job just because of the supplement. Remember that the drugs wear off, and those hours unmedicated can kill productivity in other ways from constantly being distracted - disorganization, forgetfulness, procrastination (not don't feel like it, think depression), inability to stop multitasking (this can really kill), ignoring details, impatience,... i could go on.

> As more reputable companies emerge in the sector I think I may well end up giving the products a go

Do you really need to though? There's no free lunch; these supplements are going to have side effects. Using baseball as an analogy here, if you're on a major league team getting millions to push your body for the few years you can keep up, i can see the draw of steroids. But if you're in the minors, why entertain the idea of anything other than basic nutrition, exercise, and a good night's sleep?

[lumpypua]

> I don't think Adderall/Strattera/Concerta/Ritalin/etc is as effective on those without ADHD as you're implying it is

It straight up does improve memory:

* http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20521323

* http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20589927

[TazeTSchnitzel]

> I suppose it's only natural that people are resorting to these when huge swathes of the American youth are being prescribed Adderall and similar and gaining a competitive edge with them over those who don't have access to them.

I don't think Adderall would really give ADHD suffers an advantage. It might bring them close to the level of others, but Adderall has its own effects, and ADHD isn't going to be completely eliminated by it.

I'm not an ADHD sufferer myself, but from what I understand, Adderall is used to help cope with the condition by giving you improved concentration for a while. It doesn't eliminate it.

[falcolas]

It brings your dopamine production up towards normal levels, letting your neurons connect to each other properly.

The effect is that it doesn't improve concentration so much as it allows concentration in the first place.

[TazeTSchnitzel]

Ah, that makes sense.

[HockeyPlayer]

I've heard good things about www.modafinilcat.com

[mahouse]

That's gotta be the most American thing ever. A .com website that sells you drugs so you can work harder. And the website is designed to look like they are selling you lollies.

[TazeTSchnitzel]

I can't say being marketed nootropics with an almost LSD-esque site really inspires confidence in me.

[mrsteveman1]

I really expected to see nyan cat bouncing across the screen while waiting for that site to load. I'm not sure if that would have been better or worse.

[lumpypua]

I've had 4 or 5 successful orders. Great customer service too.

[steego]

Thank you guys for your informative endorsements! I wasn't sure if I was going to spend $80 on something that looks like its marketed to imbeciles, but now that you and the other two reputable HN news users endorsed it, I'm going to plop down the cash.

[mrmondo]

I too have heard good things... (Says no more)

[borgia]

Doesn't ship to Canada unfortunately.