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by rotoole 4083 days ago
Gina,

I think the first part of your essay is inspirational. I liked and related to your experience learning to code. I'm sure many others on HackerNews would agree.

The second part was the opposite though. I had to read it a few times to fully grok what you were actually mad about:

  1) the "inspiration award" winning team's built something without writing code.
  2) the judges "lied" to these women that they were/could-be coders.
To the first point, I would say, expand your definition of hacking. This team defined a problem, worked on a solution, pitched it to a jury, and got awarded for it. Isn't that what a hack-a-thon is all about?

And it really seemed contradictory for you to say, "a real hacker is someone who tries to code all night, and regardless of how shitty it looks, stands up there and says proudly, “Yeah, I made this. It didn’t work out very well, but I learned a lot." Then to turn around and bash their submission for not meeting your own standard of hacking.

Why? Because they aren't "real" programmers? Because you doubt they will ever be "real" programmers? Because the judges awarded them for being women who tried? Because you felt slighted?

You come off as self-interested, snobby, elitist, and bitter. As a woman and engineer, what kind of role-model are you projecting for your community?

I hope the promise of more women in engineering is to change the dominant "brogramming culture" to be less homogenous and more inclusive of alternative people, ideas, and processes.

Don't you?

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Most people at hackatons expect they'll need to build something in order to win. So they constrain their ideas around that - and then do the hard work of building that.

It's about fairness towards the other participants of the hackatons.

Otherwise ,if hackatons were about ideas, most people wouldn't bother coding.

I'd argue they did build a technology solution, they did constrain their ideas to achieve it during the hack-a-thon, and their "inspiration" award is just that. They were awarded for their ideas and efforts, despite their lack of skills. It's a message of encouragement to others who are just starting out.

This article is like a high schooler getting jealous of a kindergardener for getting a gold star on their homework.