[dustinlakin]

PHP frameworks have come a long way, and so has the language. The big thing that stands out, is that three of the best frameworks in the space (Laravel, Symfony and Slim) work together and feel a friendly/healthy sense of competition. They are reusing each others components and building a much more promising future for PHP.

[monk_e_boy]

Drupal 8 is based on Symfony -- things are really moving in the right direction.

Personally, I was a huge fan of Zend Framework + Doctrine, but these frameworks are all mature and great to use.... almost as good as Rails (lol, OK, OK, don't mention Ruby within earshot of PHP fans ;)

[edit] down voted for my opinion! Argh my tiny karma is depleted -- damn you ruby, damn you to hell!

[imaginenore]

Drupal is becoming more and more insane with each release (especially 6 -> 7). The database structure is really getting out of hand. It's becoming harder and harder to deal with the performance issues.

[monk_e_boy]

Yeah... I don't know what to think about performance. We tend to be careful with page design and cache everything so once the cache is built the site flies.

But developing a drupal site is painful. Clearing the cache every few minutes takes forever.

[jcroll]

Which project reuses laravel components?

[cweagans]

Laravel is built on Symfony components, and much of Laravel can be used outside of Laravel.