[dijit]

Forgive me, but I don't think you'd have gained much more understanding of systems.

this industry, if you're not born in the right geographical location is a complete impossibility unless you are an autodidact.

Personally growing up where I was there was 0 incentive to work in computers- no courses, even anything bearing on technical was cut due to lack of interest. So I taught myself. I find that this is probably the best way to learn.

You might have been held back due to gender- I can't possibly know. But I wouldn't consider it a bad thing, probably the extra fight taught you to appreciate what you were learning in the first place.

on the flip side, I resonate with the top commenter- had I been born a woman I do feel I'd have more chances of getting a job in some hard to access companies (whether that's true or not is completely debatable of course). Even though I'm sure there are people who condescend [you] outside of [your] career.. at least online you can mask [your] gender (sad that you'd have to but bigots be bigots), but I cannot become a woman for a job interview.

[cheatsheet]

You don't have to become a woman unless you want to become a woman. I don't have to work for idiots, and neither do you.

I think any form of prejudice hinders your ability to think regardless. They can't see existence the same because they've already molded a language, a way of reasoning, and a way of thinking around an axiom of absolute certainty (that they pretend doesn't exist, because it's a bias they do not consciously act on, but it exists as an invariant in the mind regardless). It is ridiculous, counter intuitive, cognitively dissonant logic.

> in this industry, if you're not born in the right geographical location is a complete impossibility unless you are an autodidact.

Most of what is fundamentally mentally shaping and necessarily important for your ability to think as a human being is not dependent on education, but on everything, and I don't know whether I have control over it or not, but I don't begin with the premise assuming that I already know everything I am going to know.

[hamax]

> But I wouldn't consider it a bad thing

You wouldn't consider gender discrimination against women a bad thing?

Why don't you apply the same logic to the parent's comment, and consider it a good thing that he has to work harder to get the job he wants? Probably the extra fight will teach him to appreciate the job even more. Or something.

[dijit]

excuse me.. from what did I say that made it sound like I said gender discrimination is "not a bad thing".

that's quite inflammatory and it's quite upsetting.

What I actually said was; "it's good that you educated yourself because self education is much better than formal education in this industry"

I received the same amount of encouragement as the Parent. Zero, none, my mother thought it was stupid- no father, and no education system for 25 miles that would educate me on this.

And from what I've learned in nearly 10 years in industry; Self education beats formal education when formal education doesn't work hard to learn.

k? now, please, in future read the comment properly, parse what is actually being said instead of throwing accusations and insults at people.

[kaybe]

You might not have intended or meant to say that, but I parse

"You might have been held back due to gender- I can't possibly know. But I wouldn't consider it a bad thing, probably the extra fight taught you to appreciate what you were learning in the first place."

the same way as your parent comment. Just a heads-up.