[brackenbury]

Regarding angular, please see this previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8651641 There appears to be lots of things the 1000 contributors didn't get. They are after all abandoning Angular 1 and working on Angular 2 which is a completely new framework which just happens to share the same name as the older framework.

I agree designers shouldn't touch code (i.e., javascript). But designers should be able to directly edit the visual aspects (i.e., templates). This was one of the goals of XAML.

[Bahamut]

This discussion about what contributors got/didn't get is completely off - Angular was conceived at a time when a lot of what we have today in standards and better practices weren't here. To a large degree, Angular popularized many of them in frontend development, or at the least highlighted a need for a more standardized solution.

Angular has a lot of strong & smart contributors. Angular also grew more organically, and broke a lot of new ground. That says nothing about what contributors got/did not get. To equate the two requires a false assumption.