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by plikan13 4086 days ago
Legalization may provide a net health benefit for Mexican gang members. Whether legalization will provide a net health benefit for American citizens is still a point of contention.
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While the health effects of marijuana are debatable, the health effects of prison are pretty clearly established.
The war of drugs has been done badly. Of course it's ridiculous that people's homes get raided because they have some pot. That doesn't mean legislation needs to jump to the other end of the spectrum. You can forbid trade of cannabis and at the same time NOT put users in jail.
Why forbid trade?
To avoid having someone who has an incentive to work towards more widespread use.
Why do we need to avoid widespread use of a plant that has significant potential medical purposes and is less toxic than caffeine?
We currently prohibit trade, and yet there are still drug dealers...
So?
Wait - what are the health effects of prison? I remember reading somewhere that prisoners are some of the fittest people around, and you shouldn't pick a fight with one...
I guess that's a classic example of survivor bias
Huh? Is the death rate in prison significantly higher than outside? I have a hard time believing that.

For example, the murder rate in prison seems to be actually lower than outside. There's also less risk of dying in a car accident, etc.

Before you get outraged, note that I'm only talking about health effects, not happiness or achievement.

A lot of health dis-benefits are a result of criminalisation. Some people who call for decriminalisation are calling for drug use to be treated as the health problem that it is.

With criminalisation we see drives to stronger forms of the drug (EG: bootleggers were mostly not selling beer, but spirits). Decriminalisation and legalisation would allow people to grow and actively market weaker forms of the drug.

Criminalisation pushes people towards unhealthier forms of drug taking because it's legally tricky to provide harm reduction information or harm reduction devices. Most people smoke cannabis; and most people mix it with tobacco. That's a pretty unhealthy way to take it. Legally being allowed to sell vaporisers would help.

It's currently legal to sell vaporizers
Thank you!

I get confused about what is or isn't "drug paraphernalia" and whether it's legal or not.

>> Whether legalization will provide a net health benefit for American citizens is still a point of contention.

Might end up with a few less killed violently. Might end up with more money to spend on social programs instead of militarised police. Might end up with much more tax from economic activity brought out of the black market. Might end up with less contaminated produce.

All of these could end up being better for the health of American citizens.

And even if not you're bringing your problems in-house rather than shipping them off to poorer places and causing suffering there.

A lot of drug related deaths are due to not knowing what you are ingesting (random pills from a street dealer) and overdosing.

Both of these can be solved by legalizing and regulating recreational drugs.