[diydsp]

I am sorry for whatever pain you're feeling.

I don't feel the ethics of open-source apply here or to any works of art.

Programs like Microsoft Word, which have a near-monopoly on the work that literally billions of people do everyday to be productive and feed their families, when not distributed in a free manner, are tools of unjust power.

I don't feel this person's expressive work, a lifelong dream with no monetary gain, that might merely provide a few weeks of bliss and 15 minutes of internet fame a little inspiration for the rest of us, then become horribly forgotten to the sands of time, is a tool of unjust power.

> alpha-male thing going

I am sorry for whatever you've experienced that leads you to sexist comments like this. I hope that it's able to work its way through your life until you reach the point that you can simply share another person's joy without feeling entitled to have a piece of it yourself.

[kyberias]

Lol, I don't feel any pain. :)

I can see that my words can be easily interpreted like you did but I was quite literal is stating that the culture is WONDERFUL. I have no hatred against them although I'm definitely an outsider.

Also, I was literal when I referred to the closed source of these creations. I don't demand or expect them to release any source code. I'm merely wondering whether these demos would be MORE interesting with the source code released as well. As always. In 2015 it seems slightly weird that they don't.

To be clear, I definitely share the joy the authors feel accomplishing these feats. Deep respect.

But I don't get your sexism comment. I maintain that the sub-culture involves some behavior that can be described as "alpha-male". Maybe I was inaccurate with the wording. Could have said "competitive" as well.

[skrebbel]

> But I don't get your sexism comment. I maintain that the sub-culture involves some behavior that can be described as "alpha-male". Maybe I was inaccurate with the wording. Could have said "competitive" as well.

I don't think you've ever been to a demoparty :-)

If there's any "alpha male" behaviour whatsoever, it's purely in a self-ridiculing way. It used to be there, back in the nineties when all demosceners were insecure teenage nerds and some of them felt a need to compensate for something. That part of the scene is gone for twenty years now, but it's still a lot of fun to make references to that part of history.

My favourite example of this is the demo "Regus Ademordna" by Excess [0]. The title is the reverse of "Andromeda Sucks" in Norwegian. Andromeda is another Norwegian demogroup who had just made a reappearance in the demoscene at the time after having been gone since those nineties. They hadn't gotten the memo that all that alpha male stuff was something of the past, so they took serious offense, much to the enjoyment of the rest of the scene.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkVbS4CTtfc

[oldmanjay]

the bizarre condescension in your comment seems utterly unnecessary.

[pjc50]

The condescension is a work of art. You can't achieve that level of elevated dismissal without years of practice.

/joke

[tripzilch]

Too bad HN is usually not a very fertile ground for such works of art .. But this is a demoscene thread ;-)