[smt88]

Sorry, should have clarified "code-less". I definitely don't like logic in templates (although React is making me re-think that as a strict policy). But I actually meant code as in any code. A line in PHP might be this:

    <a href="<?php echo $some_url ?>">Some link</a>

So that "echo" is the code. And the same thing in Jinja is this:

    <a href="{{ some_url }}">Some link</a>

In Jinja, it's only HTML + the names of variables (which I guess you could call "data"). I can now take that line and use it with any language that supports Jinja-style syntax (PHP, Node, Python, etc.) It's also not unlikely that a designer will know it.

Also, sometimes when you use PHP, you have to sacrifice correctness or speed for readability. You don't have that problem when you're running templates that were compiled to PHP, rather than hand-written PHP.

Finally, template inheritance is absolutely amazing. Can't live without it now.

[Mahn]

For the record, your first example can be written in this manner with short tags on:

    <a href="<?=$some_url?>">Some link</a>

Which is effectively pretty close to a templating pseudo-syntax.

[smt88]

That's a perfect example of a bad practice that's done for readability in PHP templating.

Short tags are off by default in PHP (and have been for years), so you're losing some portability when you use them in your code. If, for example, someone reinstalls your PHP package and overwrites your config (which is very easy to do), your app suddenly breaks.