[seanmcdirmid]

Which one? PKU? Qinghua? Shanghai Jiaotong? It is not such an easy choice anymore, and the universities in Beijing have poor facilities compared to Shanghai, making it difficult for them to attract shanghainese to come here to Beijing to study.

Even chinese students these days want heated and air conditioned dormitories, a shower in their dorm (at least on their floor! Definitely not in a separate building), and clean water to wash with. Or screw it, the ones that can will just go to some 2nd or 1st tier school in the U.S. or UK anyways so they aren't wasting their time.

[mikebelanger]

I like how you're insinuating that current Chinese students are acting entitled by wanting heating and air conditioning in their dorms. Whereas in Canada/US, heating/air conditioning in dorms is considered a basic :P We really are spoiled in the West.

[bruceb]

He is not saying they are acting entitled. Just saying it is a change from the past when they were ok accepting what we would consider lower standards as they didn't have much choice.

[mikebelanger]

Oh I see, I guess I was just struck by the difference in expectations of students in the west and even (some) of the ones in China - and I leaped to conclusions from there.

[seanmcdirmid]

For the older generation, ha, but the younger generation has higher expectations.

[namlem]

Tons of dorms in the US still have no air conditioning.

[seanmcdirmid]

imagine some place hotter than Atlanta without AC. That damn Yangtze river line: the north of it gets heat in the winter, the south of it gets AC in the summer, it isn't as accurate as you'd think.

[amateurpolymath]

I can imagine it. Went to a university in Florida that had dorms without AC.