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by michellegreer1 6073 days ago
This post was actually directed in a passive aggressive way to a couple of developers who employed me, only to completely ignore the countless usability and best practices studies I cited. It was months of pure pain.

The simple truth is, I COMPLETELY VALUE web developers because the work they do keeps me employed. I don't code, but I also expect that they value the experience I bring to the table as a marketer as well. This post is essentially a way of saying, "I don't tell you how to code, so please trust me to do my job."
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felipe 6073 days ago
I agree with mr_eel. Your message is good but it would have been much more effective if you have used a less condescending tone.

Good web developers DO VALUE the importance of marketing and sales. I think we have a lot to learn from you, but with this kind of post you are helping to alienate developers.

Please don't take me wrong, that's just my humble opinion on the matter.

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michellegreer1 6073 days ago
Well, I'm sorry. That was most certainly not what I wanted to do. I actually like developers a lot, and was just a bit frustrated because the developers I was working with at the time were incredibly arrogant. It's a total bummer when you spend your time reading up on marketing best practices and some jerk tells you that Forrester's or Nielsen studies on marketing don't mean anything.

I didn't intend for this post to get to the top of Hacker News. I should be more careful next time.

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mr_eel 6073 days ago
Just to reiterate, I totally agree with your points.

Also, I perfectly understand your frustration. I've had some opportunity to see the issue from both sides and it's unfortunate when someone refuses to see the value in your work.

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bertramm 6073 days ago
"I don't tell you how to code, so please trust me to do my job." Seems to be a bit of a fallacious argument. If you could code better than the developer, I would imagine any developer interested in making a product would put you right in there. However, same goes the other way, if the developer is a better marketer than you... get another job...
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