[ntakasaki]

>where nor developers of the software and users of the software have no say.

The Chromebook is actually worse, since the iDevices at least give you access to run native applications even if they have to be approved by Apple. On a Chromebook, native applications can only be made by Google.

[eveningcoffee]

Fair enough, but Apple (Jobs) started this madness.

[pain]

Basic needs mad to map?

If madmess means objectification relation issues, are object-relational pattern mapping recognition issues, then we need to address roots causes of offense being made (said infosec minus madus emosec) from the office of authority over self copy.

Systems thinking rarely accounts for system feeling (https://fb.com/groups/roboswears/permalink/574282622692010). Social contract terms can evolve past pleasure-trauma-based war compeatition business forms of safety, to register mental health as material health, user rights as business rights.

Data-legal-rational-emotional-empathic business terms are missing.

Our software and our hardware is taking turns at manipulating real physical and emotional problems by forgetting how many hands it takes to move a machine, and putting a dress over working parts, to light a figurine of determination that barely speaks without hurting.

Even Steve Jobs had to beat odds that respect objectification before emotional development, coming from acid trips wiring depth to doing ACID tests just to pass text notes, we live with tools that we want to share to help, but business terms are designed to define us as without legal-rational-medical parity to corporal hierachies of need.