[lmm]

> And just now you've insulted him saying he doesn't understand OOP.

The laws of politeness are like the laws of war: once you violate them you forfeit their protection.

> You know Linus Torvalds is not very fond of OOP as well, right?

I would emphatically advise beginners not to listen to Linus Torvalds, and be very concerned if he started writing programming tutorials for beginners.

> Always use OOP where it makes sense. I don't think he ever argued that.

I'm thinking specifically of http://learncodethehardway.org/blog/AUG_19_2012.html as that was where I first encountered him. This article is a) something he wrote by himself, not in response to being called names b) self-confident and abrasive in a way that I think it is fair to describe as "arrogant" c) wrong, in a way that seems to reflect not understanding polymorphism - particularly given his replies in the HN discussion of that piece.

[gareim]

I just read the each vs for part and I don't see anything wrong with it. He's saying it's easier for beginners to grasp the for loop and it's also a pretty universal loop. What's wrong with what he said?

[vidarh]

Frankly, after reading that piece, as a Ruby developer that does decidedly prefer "each", I see nothing wrong in it. I also don't find it remotely abrasive and don't see any of that self-confidence (since when is that bad?) you seem to have a problem with. I don't see any arrogance either.

You're not doing yourself any favours by so confidently making abrasive comments about Zed based on that.

[coldtea]

>I would emphatically advise beginners not to listen to Linus Torvalds

Lest they might learn something?

[lmm]

Because he has a lot of experience in one very specialized area of programming which very much doesn't reflect the wider profession. It's the same problem as e.g. http://codon.com/the-dhh-problem

I'd recommend beginners listen to a wide variety of "big names", but only those who are clear about the scope and limits of their experience.