[davidshepherd7]

I can't find a publication date for the first version, but since the second edition [was published in 2010](http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:eW9X2nO...) I suspect it's now been nearly 10 years since that statement was written.

[coldtea]

And still true.

[baq]

yeaaah, no.

[coldtea]

Yeah, check pip stats.