[bluedevil2k]

Aren't you projecting your European biases and beliefs on our American system. Who's to say your system is right, and our system is wrong? Europe takes a different approach to labor and economics than the United States. You may love large socialist structures in Europe, but you trade that off with a slow-growing economy. In the US, we have a smaller socialist structure with fewer safety nets, but we get a faster growing and robust economy. There's no right or wrong.

[pessimizer]

> There's no right or wrong.

If your argument ends in this conclusion, you should assume that there's a fallacy somewhere.

[DanBC]

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

> Please avoid introducing classic flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say about them.

[colmvp]

The rebuttal wouldn't have had been posted if the original comment not been a histrionic observation.

[vezzy-fnord]

I'm unaware of many "socialist structures" in either Europe or North America, with the exception of Mondragon. That is unless you define socialism as purely meaning "state ownership of industry", which is rather naive, even if widely accepted by the American public.

[geon]

> robust economy

That's debatable.

[Iftheshoefits]

I'm a US citizen by birth. I just happen to have traveled and lived abroad for a time, and I find the labor laws especially, but the social welfare laws in general in the US to be rather backward and uncivilized: barbaric is a word I chose deliberately because in my opinion it is accurate.