[downer]

> "... we were not out to win over the Lisp programmers; we were after the C++ programmers. We managed to drag a lot of them about halfway to Lisp."

I've never understood that mindset. Java is about the opposite direction from Lisp.

At least C++ has generic metaprogramming.

[pfedor]

I think he was referring to garbage collecting. Not that it makes this statement any more justified or anything.