[gress]

Do you think it's good that men treat each other like shit?

I think it can be just as oppressive when a stronger man treats a weaker man like shit as it is when a man treats a woman like shit. (By 'weak' in this context I am talking about power differential and not some inherent quality of the individual).

[venomsnake]

> Do you think it's good that men treat each other like shit?

Yes. If you can't take the heat, don't jump in the oven.

Respect is something that have to be earned. I will treat anyone with disrespect (bosses, presidents and pope included) until you earn it and show you have worth as a human being.

[gress]

So you treat people as if they have no worth until they do something you like. Got it.

[venomsnake]

I don't have to like it ... it just needs to be impressive to put the person above the sea of mediocrity.

[gress]

As judged by you.

[javert]

If this is your attitude, you will never earn my respect, and rightly so.

People should be treated with respect until they have shown they don't deserve it.

Your comment here betrays a nasty perspective on the human race.

[venomsnake]

> People should be treated with respect until they have shown they don't deserve it.

Is this an axiom (in which case further discussion is pointless, since your world view is incompatible with mine) or something you could prove.

[gress]

It's pretty simple. If you do otherwise, then you are doing a lot of needless harm.

[javert]

I wrote an answer, but HN gobbled it up because it said I was posting too fast. I don't want to write it again.