[LLWM]

Normal people graduate from college with tens of thousands of dollars in student loans. Normal people are unhealthily obese. Normal people go bankrupt from unexpected medical expenses. Is it your aspiration in life to be normal?

[supdog]

If you mean to ask me what my aspiration in life is, you might be interested to know that many of my heros were felons. Jesus, Gandhi, John Bunyan,...

Peaceful agribuisnessman Joel Salatin said it this way, "Everything I want to do is illegal" http://www.amazon.com/Everything-Want-To-Do-Illegal/dp/09638...

[LLWM]

No, I don't, and no, I'm not.

[kaishiro]

Yeah, I'm also somewhat perplexed by what point you're trying to get across here. You're saying that you agree that normal people commit felonies, so the answer is to "not be normal"?

Just looking for some clarification. Thanks.

[LLWM]

Yes. I don't find "most people do it" to be a convincing excuse for personal flaws.

[supdog]

Would you find that "most people commit felonies (without harm)" to be convincing evidence of policy flaws?

[LLWM]

That claim is logically impossible. If most people were committing felonies without harm, that would lend plausible deniability to harmful felons, thus indirectly causing harm.

[supdog]

Or the claim is highly probable, if bad policy was systemically painting peaceful people as felons. If so, what then is the root cause of the harm?

[LLWM]

Asking about the root cause of the harm only has meaning if there is harm being caused.