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by lgp171188 4121 days ago
Almost all of our communication protocols and technologies are built on trust on those who run various services. So as long as that is the case, imho there is no way to stop surveillance.

It would be great to start from scratch and build things without the expectation of any trustability from anyone, but I don't see that happening ever!

Sad to see that the people elected by other people like us to do good for all the people tend to do everything other than that.
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htor 4121 days ago
It is a fact that the internet - designed to be de-centralised - is becoming more and more centralised, evolving around service providers.

> Almost all of our communication protocols and technologies are built on trust on those who run various services.

That is why we need to build and use de-centralized systems like Bitcoin, Tor and physical mesh networks to share and communicate. These evolve around people, not service providers. Of course, there's a huge difference between trusting people and trusting corporations.

> It would be great to start from scratch and build things without the expectation of any trustability from anyone, but I don't see that happening ever!

Too bad that you're not too bright about the future. A lot of people are working on fixing it. Maybe these links will inspire you to think about it differently?

https://bitcoin.org/en/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesh_networking

https://ssd.eff.org

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lgp171188 4121 days ago
> Too bad that you're not too bright about the future. A lot of people are working on fixing it. Maybe these links will inspire you to think about it differently?

I have come across these things that you have pointed out and yes they are steps in the right direction. But if you ask me if any of those will become the mainstream de-facto thing that everyone will use some time in the future? Based on the evidence available at the moment, I would still stick to what I said and maintain that it is highly unlikely given the current state of affairs. Yes, I would be very glad to be proven wrong but not enough atm to feel optimism. :)

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