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by masklinn 4115 days ago
I'm not missing anything, I'm saying the statement

> And the JVM has the slowest startup time of any runtime I've ever encountered.

looks completely correct in and of itself. Clojure's startup time can be blamed for making things worse (by a fairly significant bit), but the JVM is already, without Clojure, the slowest-starting runtime I have on my machine. And that's what pjmlp objected to.
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pjmlp 4115 days ago
I get 130ms on Windows 8.1, Core Duo 2.53 GHz with jdk1.8.0_40. And 120ms If I disable the JIT.

With a normal hard disk.

Maybe it does take a few ms more than Lua or Python, but hardly anything significant.

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masklinn 4115 days ago
> Maybe it does take a few ms more than Lua or Python

Yeah, like 3 to 6 times longer.

> but hardly anything significant.

Well if 6x is not significant, surely Clojure's second start time is hardly significant.

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pjmlp 4115 days ago
I don't want to install Lua or Python just to test how long an Hello World takes, hence my "maybe".

Even if I am wrong, 6x here means 130ms, whereas Clojure time is in the order of seconds.

Big enough to warrant a few entries on their roadmap.

http://dev.clojure.org/display/design/%27Lean%27+Runtime

http://nicholaskariniemi.github.io/2014/02/25/clojure-bootst...

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