[fokinsean]

I just took a look at Titanium and holy moley their documentation was overwhelming. I haven't used a "native" hybrid app framework yet (only have experience with ionic), but NativeScript looks a bit more accessible to me than Titanium does.

[sheraz]

I say the documentation is pretty ok once you get familiar with how the API is laid out. And for everything else they have the developer QA section, which is like a self-hosted stack-overflow.

I've been building a couple of simple apps on it the last few months, and it has been a pleasure.

I should be clear here -- I've been using Titanium, not Alloy.

[fokinsean]

A self hosted QA is pretty awesome. I think another thing that threw me off was how every section I clicked opened up a tab.

I'm still new to the hybrid app world and have only used ionic. I want to eventually try one of these "native" frameworks though.

[jv22222]

I agree, Titanium classic is really great to work with once you get up and running. I tried Alloy but quickly realized it slows things down and makes it harder to develop.

So, lesson for me was use titanium classic and NOT Alloy.

Also, I would advise building your own small framework with views (things like title bars etc). Just makes it so much easier to make it look and work exactly how you want on iOS and Android.

[pbreit]

They lost me with the switch to Alloy.

[sheraz]

Exactly, I started on Alloy and quickly found that there was too much magic in going from templates to js code.

Once I took a step back to Titanium it all felt a lot more sane. Yes it is a little more verbose, but at least I can follow the data flow in code.

Appcelerator is going through some changes as of this week[1] which I hope will improve the documentation and ecosystem around the product.

[1] - http://techcrunch.com/2015/03/04/appcelerator-slashes-staff/

[pbreit]

Also, their by far best evangelist, Kevin Whinnery, left for Twilio a year or two ago.