[Nick-Craver]

The cloud is awesome if you have zero interest whatsoever in hardware. It's not without trade-offs (nor is the other direction), and too many for us - but if it works for you then great I say.

We obviously feel very different, and are just doing what works best for us.

[beachstartup]

most of the public cloud cheer-leading is just people rationalizing to themselves what an awesome decision they made deploying on aws onto a billion tiny instances or whatever. and for lots of folks, it probably is pretty awesome.

however, i've seen very, very few people compare actual before/after $ figures on hn. when it comes time to show your cards everyone gets cold feet, either because they 1. don't have any idea because they aren't the ones paying for it or 2. don't have a baseline for comparison and are just paying whatever amazon asks or 3. it ended up costing 2-4x as much on amazon

when your bill is $5k/month 2-4x isn't that big of a deal. when it's $100k+ a month, it becomes a really big deal.

[balls187]

> We obviously feel very different, and are just doing what works best for us.

And doing it very well, if I may say so.