[seekingtruth]

>Eating healthy is incredibly difficult in western society,

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read on this site. Fresh, healthy, affordable food has never been more accessible to any society.

>"Just eat less" is not a very helpful answer, it's incredibly frustrating to hear, believe me.

Eating less is the only thing that works. You only find this advice unhelpful because it's hard. But the reason it's hard is because you've trained yourself to overeat and now you have to break that habit, a habit that has its psychological and physiological meathooks in you. People who haven't lived their entire lives stuffing themselves to the bursting point have no problems autoregulating. I mean, shit, my cat can manage it.

>It takes a lot of effort, lots of planning (preparing food, planning what, where and when to eat, snacks, etc) and a LOT of information (nutrition, insulin effects on the body, pros and cons of current 'fad' diets, etc) which takes a while to collect, also, lots of trial an error.

You sound like a pathetic whiny snot who has embraced a life of learned helplessness.

[adl]

> You sound like a pathetic whiny snot who has embraced a life of learned helplessness.

I'm trying to change my circumstances the 'hacker way': learning, experimenting and trying my best, even if it is a hard problem for me to resolve.

For me, staying healthy, slim and fit is incredibly hard, it seems that for you it is not.

[seekingtruth]

But this is a well-trod path. There is no need to reinvent or rediscover anything. In fact, belaboring the "how" is really just a diversion that prevents success. Anyone who is successful at body transformation does two things: 1) Permanently changes their diet 2) Permanently changes their activity level. The particulars vary in any number of ways but the one constant is that the person moves from thinking to action. The process becomes not something that they "try" or "work on" but an imperative.

A guy I went to high school with was an all-star center on our (American) football team at six feet tall and 294 lbs. He had always been "the fat guy" from the time we were children. Between the end of one football season and the start of the next school year, he dropped to 160 lbs. When he spoke on the topic of his change, he always first answered the "how" question with this response: "I just decided I was tired of being fat." For him, the particulars involved introducing heaping servings of fibrous vegetables (to help satiety) and running. But those things were of secondary importance.

Look at this guy: http://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/2xczpt/6_month_prog...

45 years and old and resigned to being dumpy and hypertensive. Then he decided "fuck this" and changed his life. This is how it always works. You have to become sufficiently fed up to no longer accept the status quo. No one can do that for you nor will it appear in any study, book, or other "how-to-be-fit" advice.

This is why I no longer talk to people in real life about this topic. I can give them an endless supply of information on nutrition & programming but not the one thing without which they are doomed to failure.

[AlisdairO]

Is there anything you find hard?

[seekingtruth]

Deadlifts. That's why I do them.

[AlisdairO]

So you've never wanted to achieve something but found it too hard to take the necessary steps to do so?

[cbd1984]

If that's the only thing you do you find hard you're intellectually deficient by choice and therefore not worth listening to.

[seekingtruth]

Learning new things is fun. Lifting twice my bodyweight for reps is hard work. You sound like a typical fatty harboring the delusion that fit people are incapable of excelling at anything other than being fit. This is a particularly laughable notion given the clear evidence that low IQ is positively correlated with obesity [1] (and, likewise, physical fitness is positively correlated with higher IQ and cognitive function).

1. http://personal.lse.ac.uk/kanazawa/pdfs/COEDO2014.pdf

[cbd1984]

And you sound like a typical asshole with a hugely inflated opinion of your own intelligence, which negatively correlates with actually having one.

[seekingtruth]

Well, these things do vary over a lifetime but, in most cases, not by much: http://i.imgur.com/hRaXDDQ.jpg