[TeMPOraL]

I'm also not for celebrity worship. But I know that Star Trek formed me as a person, it's not just responsible for my interest in technology, it made me the very person I am now, taught me to always solve things peacefully, made me believe in the future of prosperity through science and good parts of human nature. I feel grief now, and I know I will feel the same when Kirk, Picard and other of my childhood role models shall depart.

Farewell Spock. It's for us who are left to work towards the bright future you shown us.

[moron4hire]

TNG was the series that was on when I was a kid, so my attachments are much more oriented there. But I understand it completely. My favorite parts were always when Geordi and Data worked together to come up with a solution to a seemingly impossible problem.

And as I grew up, I started seeing all of the parts of the show: the way good leadership inspires the best in people, and how good leadership is about creating a sense of unity rather than being a God-like character demanding worship. How working together in diverse groups and hearing input from everyone can find solutions no one person would have found on their own. How saving the day doesn't have to be about violence, it can be about engineering, or just being there for someone. That the search for truth and knowledge is often the best motivation for anything.

It made me want to be the one who made the things and fixed the other things and save the day because of it. I call it "Wanting to Be the Guy". The go-to person. The one that can be counted on.

The entire run of Star Trek series' has a lot of flaws. I recently rewatched the first season of TNG with my wife: boy howdy does it stink. But I think a lot of that has more to do with the economics of serial television. The team that put together Star Trek gave themselves a phenomenal undertaking. And I think they covered a huge range of the human condition in an incredibly tasteful, nuanced manner. That's extremely commendable.

[TeMPOraL]

I understand.

I personally haven't even watched the whole TOS. TNG was on when I was a kid as well, and this is the best and I think most true to the spirit part of the show.

But then the Kirk's crew were part of the show's legacy, so I grew connected to them as well.

> the way good leadership inspires the best in people, and how good leadership is about creating a sense of unity rather than being a God-like character demanding worship. How working together in diverse groups and hearing input from everyone can find solutions no one person would have found on their own. How saving the day doesn't have to be about violence, it can be about engineering, or just being there for someone. That the search for truth and knowledge is often the best motivation for anything.

Couldn't have said it better myself. This show was the embodiment of benefits of cooperation. It inspired me not only to love science and technology, but first and foremost to be the best person I can. To love the truth, to love the fellow men with whom I'm stuck together on the same piece of rock orbiting a giant gas ball. To always seek peace and progress. To stay helpful, and stay curious.

> The entire run of Star Trek series' has a lot of flaws. I recently rewatched the first season of TNG with my wife: boy howdy does it stink. But I think a lot of that has more to do with the economics of serial television. The team that put together Star Trek gave themselves a phenomenal undertaking. And I think they covered a huge range of the human condition in an incredibly tasteful, nuanced manner. That's extremely commendable.

True, it's hard to rewatch old series now, they just feel off - a lot of that is due to its age. And yet I can still clearly see the message these shows had. As someone once said, maybe TNG was the last sci-fi that was hopeful of the future.

And while I know the newest Star Trek series, Enterprise, was somewhat controvelsial among fans, I do believe it's intro is the best summary, the very embodiment of what is the spirit of Star Trek.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yijcWsLda8

[moron4hire]

Hehe, I loved Enterprise. And I thought the same thing about its intro music. I think people just got caught up in their hero worship, again, and it prevented them from wanting to like the show. Then the ratings machinery took over and it really hurt the ending of the series.

I've similarly felt a lack of aspirationalism in modern sci-fi. That's one of the aspects that I like about Interstellar. It almost feels like a pre-warp, Star Trek universe Earth. It's gritty and bleak in a lot of places, but the overall message is one of hope. People also complained about the plot, but I thought it was pretty typical Christopher Nolan fair, so if you don't like that flavor of ice cream, you probably shouldn't have ordered it in a sunday, if you catch my metaphor.