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by amelius 4130 days ago
I wonder what happens if test-engineer Bob finds out that there is a new job-opening for a test-engineer in his company, with a salary that is significantly higher than his own current salary.
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He does what I did in the same situation, spend 5 minutes finding a new job before turning in his 2 week notice.

I don't do the "lets re-negotiate my salary" bit, it's up to my employer to keep me at or above market rate for my skills, I shouldn't have to ask for it.

Ok, with the strategy of employers to be reluctant with publishing salary info, how do you currently determine your market rate?

And given the fact that this market rate is not a clearly defined value (also thanks to employers' reluctance), don't you think it is necessary to at least negotiate with your current employer if you believe you're being paid below par?

The last time this happened to me (in 2011) I was with one of the big consulting firms and the guy in charge of recruiting put up notices everywhere with a job listing for my current position except with a 5-10% higher salary.

That being said, if I wasn't privy to this information it wouldn't take much to find out what the other people on my team are making. I don't think I've ever worked in an environment where salaries were considered top secret information.

Then, with any luck, he'll leave the company that's apparently underpaying him for one that will value his services more. That's a good outcome for Bob.

Compare with "What happens if engineer Bob finds out that his company has finally conceded to the current market rates, if only for new hires, but expects to continue under-paying their established employees?"

Companies like that tend to complain about how it's so hard to keep staff!
He asks for his salary to be re-aligned with industry standards and in many cases they will oblige.

In most cases, businesses are reasonable. They aren't going to volunteer to pay you more out of the goodness of their heart, but (most) of the time it doesn't hurt to ask. Just don't go threatening to leave if they don't.

If your company doesn't appreciate enough to pay you market rate unless you explicitly ask for it, you're better off finding a different employer.
I've never, in 15+ years of employment, ever seen a company that will increase your salary simply to square you with market rate. It's always "here's your cost-of-living" increase (which is based on your current salary). Or, "You're doing a good job, here's a raise" (which has nothing to do with market rate). They will, however decrease your salary as market rate goes down.
I've never seen it happen, either, which is why I tend to jump ship every 12-24 months.

I really don't understand why companies are so nonchalant about employee retention.

You don't threaten to leave. You leave.
Yeah, I would say to be prepared to be let go or tender your resignation if you can't reach an agreement with your employer.

Sticking around for the original salary after renegotiating tells them either that you didn't care that much to begin with, or that you'll be taking a lot of calls and personal days in the next couple of months.