[davars]

Even with msttcorefonts installed?

[mikeyur]

The problem is that it doesn't look good out of the box. I shouldn't have to hack a bunch of stuff together to get it working properly.

[whatusername]

True - but when we start comparing it to Windows - (disable crapware, install firefox, install anti-virus, install iTunes) vs Ubuntu (install restricted-extras) then a Ubuntu setup starts looking pretty good.