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by gnaritas 4143 days ago
> That's because those people have no business being there.

Says who? Who are you to tell people where they have business being?

> Those mountains are for genuine climbers that can earn their ascent there, not idiots with too much money and no respect for a mountain, who have sherpas basically push them to the top.

Again, says who?

> I hate this ridiculously entitled attitude.

Like the one you're showing telling others what they should and shouldn't do?

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Where are you going with this? People climb Mt Everest and die. Who says they shouldn't be there? You are free to be a rotten corpse, too, if you like.

Good decision-making requires good judgement. If you think judgement is unfair, then go ahead and make dumb decisions. Though the whole point of having a conversation is to find out how to make good decisions, not to defend bad ones in the name of some misplaced 'right to be stupid.'

>Says who?

Well, I do. If that's not good enough for you, then do something about it instead of pretending like there's some great authority I should be appealing to in the exercise of good reason.

People die climbing it, that's not a justification for saying people don't belong there when what's being suggested it not climbing but riding up in an enclosed environment to tour it. Your position has no merit.
"People die climbing it, that's not a justification for saying people don't belong there"

So what are you saying? People belong dead on a mountain?

People belong wherever they want to go, dangerous or not. People choose to do dangerous things, accept it and stop trying to say where others should or shouldn't go. Danger is not a reason to say you can't do that.
Says who?

Biology. Dying from a cerebral oedema is one way your body tells you "you shouldn't have come here". Rushing quickly up that kind of altitude is dangerous to your health - for example, one of the biggest contributors to altitude medicine was when India rushed an army to the Himalayas in the '60s to counter China [1]. They got a lot of pulmonary and cerebral oedemas, and the sizable affected population really helped the literature in the topic.

Also, keep in mind that the opinion offered was in response to someone basically saying that it was indefensible to not build a gondola ride to the top of everest. I notice you didn't tell that commenter "says who?".

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Indian_War

Nonsense, people fly everyday, they're called pressurized cabins; that you think anyone is suggesting otherwise is your lack of imagination, not some limitation of biology.